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do you actually know which broker your prop firm routes to behind the scenes

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    Ethan Carter
    wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
    #1

    most prop firms run their platforms on top of a real broker or liquidity provider, but they rarely say who. it matters because the spreads, slippage and execution you get on a challenge are really the underlying brokers, not the props branding.

    has anyone actually figured out who their prop firm uses underneath, and did it explain weird fills you were seeing?

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      carterw
      wrote on global:last-edited-by,
      #2

      you can sometimes infer it from the server name in the platform, the symbol suffixes, or the spread behaviour matching a known broker. but many props sit on a white-label or their own simulated feed during the challenge phase, so the execution you see in evaluation isnt even a live market, its their model. that gap between challenge feed and funded feed explains a lot of the weird fills people report.

      Risk first.

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        skywavee
        wrote on global:last-edited-by,
        #3

        this is the key thing newer prop traders miss. the evaluation is often on a simulated or heavily managed feed, so your challenge spreads and slippage may not match what funded traders get, let alone a real broker. judge a prop on funded-stage execution reports, not the demo-like challenge environment.

        keep records

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          zacharyy
          wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
          #4

          you want to know the broker behind the prop so you can pretend the bad fills arent your startegy. the underlying feed is the same for everyone in the challenge. the ones who pass dont blame the routing.

          trust but verify

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            mattlive
            wrote on global:last-edited-by,
            #5

            partly fair but not fully. ive seen a prop whose challenge feed had visibly worse slippage on news than any real broker id used, which absolutely affected stop-based strategies, not excuses. the discipline is to separate 'the feed is genuinely poor' from 'i lost and want a culprit'. both exist and only execution data tells them apart.

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              quietstorm
              wrote on global:last-edited-by,
              #6

              how would i even pull execution data to compare, is that something the prop platform gives you or do i log it myself?

              trying not to rush it

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                Jake
                wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                #7

                log it yourself: for each trade record intended entry, actual fill, intended stop and where it actually closed. after 30-50 trades you can see your average slippage in points. compare that to the same strategy on a demo at a known broker. if the props slippage is consistently worse on identical setups, thats real signal, not a feeling.

                keep records

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                  shadowpilot
                  wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                  #8

                  keeping your own fill log also protects you in disputes. if a prop ever questions your trading or you want to challenge a rule application, having your own clean record of intended versus actual prices is far stronger than arguing from memory. log everything from day one.

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                    Nicholas
                    wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                    #9

                    judge funded-stage execution, not the challenge feed.

                    notes > opinions

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                      northlight
                      wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
                      #10

                      the simulated challenge feed thing just clicked for me šŸ”„ i kept blaming myself for slippage that real brokers never gave me. logging from now on.

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