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    bluephoenix
    wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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    doji, hammer, engulfing, morning star, evening star - the classic candlestick pattern lexicon. most trading books spend chapters on these. but i've never met a profitable trader who trades pure candlestick pattern signals without other context.

    is this a 'candlestick patterns work but only with context' situation, or are they just chart aesthetic that has never had real edge?

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      Dean
      wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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      tested classic candlestick patterns systematically across multiple instruments and timeframes. results: in isolation, win rate roughly 50-52% (basically coin flip). with context (at major support/resistance, in trending direction, at confluence points) win rate climbs to 60-65%. the patterns themselves have minimal edge. the context they signal within does. patterns + context = useful. patterns alone = noise.

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        Jake
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        +1. classic books treat candlestick patterns as if they have inherent magic. they dont. they're signaling 'price rejected this level' which only matters if the level matters. learn patterns AS WELL AS learning context, not patterns INSTEAD of context.

        keep records

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          Caleb
          wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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          should i bother learning candlestick patterns then? feels like wasted time

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            derekwhite
            wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
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            learn the BIG patterns (engulfing, hammer/shooting star, doji at extremes) because they're efficient shorthand for what price is doing. dont memorize 50 obscure patterns - thats waste. the big 5-6 cover 90% of useful signaling. focus there, learn context separately, combine them.

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              wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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              candlestick patterns were created by a 17th century rice trader and the whole industry pretends his patterns translate perfectly to algorithmic forex markets. they dont. they're partial relics.

              show the losing trades too

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                thomas_x
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                #7

                the original patterns work because they describe how price behaves when sentiment shifts, which is timeless. modern algorithms react to the same human-readable patterns because humans still set the levels. dismissing pre-electronic concepts entirely is overcorrection.

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                  samuel.j
                  wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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                  engulfing candles at clean support are my favorite setup 🔥 simple, visible, repeatable. pattern + level + bias = high probability entry. ive made years of income off this single combination

                  journal it

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                    Ian
                    wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                    #9

                    patterns + context. always.

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