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scalping the london open - whats actually still working

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  • DeanD offline
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    Dean
    wrote on global:last-edited-by,
    #1

    the london open from 07:00 - 09:30 UTC has historically been a goldmine for scalpers. liquidity flooding in, clear directional moves on majors, pre-news positioning.

    but the playbook has changed. simple 'breakout of the asian range' that worked for years now gets stop hunted in the first 5 minutes 60% of the time. patterns that were $2k a week for me 2 years ago are -$500 a week now.

    for those still scalping london open profitably - what is your current edge?

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      carterw
      wrote on global:last-edited-by,
      #2

      shifted my approach 18 months ago: i now WAIT for the stop hunt before entering. asian range breakout in either direction, take the stop run, enter on the reversal back through the range. classic 'liquidity grab' framing. win rate around 55%, R 1.8.

      Risk first.

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      • asherwoodA offline
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        asherwood
        wrote on global:last-edited-by,
        #3

        +1. fading the initial move is now the move. retail moved their stops to the obvious levels and algos fade them ruthlessly. join the fade with confirmation, dont try to be the original breakout trader.

        keep records

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        • LucasL offline
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          Lucas
          wrote on global:last-edited-by,
          #4

          what is 'fading the move'? does that mean trading against the trend?

          one trade at a time

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            ghostknight
            wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
            #5

            short term yes. price spikes one direction taking out obvious stops, then reverses sharply. 'fading' means entering on that reversal in the opposite direction of the initial spike. its trading the stop hunt as if you knew it was coming. risky if you misread the level.

            check the details

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            • coldvisionC offline
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              coldvision
              wrote on global:last-edited-by,
              #6

              different angle - i stopped scalping the open entirely and now trade the london CLOSE (16:00-18:00 UTC). less competition because everyone is focused on the open. less algo density. the moves are smaller but the win rate is higher because its less predictable so less farmed by HFT.

              test small first

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              • D offline
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                Daniel
                wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                #7

                the london open was always a meme. you guys just stopped getting lucky.

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                • ChrisC offline
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                  Chris
                  wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
                  #8

                  still very tradeable for me. the difference: i use higher timeframe context (daily bias) to filter which direction to scalp during the open. random scalping died. directional scalping with confluence is alive. its less of a 'mechanical' edge and more skill-based now.

                  No edge without records.

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                    midnightzone
                    wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
                    #9

                    i love london open scalping but i had to evolve 5 times in 3 years šŸ”„ the market changes the rules and you adapt or die. boring meta.but real

                    one bad day is not the month

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                      Elliot
                      wrote on global:last-edited-by,
                      #10

                      fade the hunt. wait for confirmation. small.

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