the 90% lose stat, is it the brokers fault or ours

[maxturner]

always hear "90% of retail loses money". brokers love blaming us, traders love blaming brokers. whats the actual split. is it bad brokers, bad psychology, leverage, or just maths

[shadowpilot]

mostly us, with the system tilted against us. the math: spread+commission+swap is a constant drag, so you need an edge just to break even, most people dont have one. add leverage + revenge trading + no risk plan and youre done. bad brokers make it worse but even a perfect broker, most retail would still lose. its not a fair coin and most play it like a casino

[Jake]

its leverage. give a monkey 1:500 and itll blow up by lunch. half these 'losses' are just leverage doing what leverage does

[Oliver]

both of the above. the costs make it a negative sum game before you even click, and leverage speeds up the inevitable for the undisciplined. the 10% who win mostly just have tiny edge + ruthless risk control. boring but true

[visionaire]

for me it was 100% psychology i had a decent system, then id move my stop, double down, revenge trade. the strategy was fine, i was the bug

[Leo]

its us. mostly us

[Justin 0]

this thread is the 90% trying to figure out why theyre the 90%