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scaling up position size is wrecking my psychology, anyone else hit this wall

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  • DeanD offline
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    Dean
    wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
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    consistent and profitable at small size for over a year. every time i try to scale the position sizes up, even keeping the same percentage risk, the bigger dollar swings get in my head and i start making the rookie mistakes i thought id left behind. the strategy is identical, only the size changed. how do experienced traders push through the scaling wall?

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      carterw
      wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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      this wall is real and almost universal. even at constant percentage risk, the absolute dollar swing is what your gut reacts to, and a 2 percent loss thats fifty dollars feels nothing like a 2 percent loss thats five hundred. the fix that worked for me was scaling in tiny increments, increasing size by small steps and staying at each level until the dollar swings felt normal before stepping up again. you have to acclimatise the emotion, not just the math.

      Risk first.

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        tylerg
        wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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        incremental acclimatisation is the answer. people try to jump from small to large in one step and their psychology cant keep up with their account. step the size up slowly enough that each new dollar range becomes boring before the next increase. the math says you can size up instantly, the nervous system says otherwise, and the nervous system is the one placing the trades.

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          cloudyvision
          wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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          or accept that your real edge exists at a size your psychology can handle, and constantly fighting to trade bigger is ego, not strategy. plenty of consistent small traders blow up chasing a size that was never psychologically theirs to trade.

          trust but verify

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            bluedreams
            wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
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            the troll raises something worth sitting with. theere is a size that is genuinely yours and chasing beyond it can convert a profitable small trader into a blown-up larger one. the reconciliation: scale slowly and honestly notice whether the mistakes fade with acclimatisation or persist no matter how gradual you go. if they fade, it was adjustment and you can grow. if they never fade at a given level, thats your real ceiling for now, and respecting it beats blowing up to prove ego.

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              derekwhite
              wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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              a practical trick during scaling: keep thinking and journaling in percentages and R, not dollars. the dollar figure is what triggers the emotion, the percentage is what actually matters and what you trained on. some traders even hide the account currency value and watch only percentage. reframing the swing as the same 1R you always traded helps the brain treat the bigger position as the familiar risk it mathematically is.

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                fadedlights
                wrote on global:last-edited-by, Admin
                #7

                scale in small steps, think in R not dollars, respect your real ceiling.

                mostly lurking

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                  samuel.j
                  wrote on global:last-edited-by,
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                  the hide-the-dollar-value tip is genius and im trying it tonight šŸ”„ its absolutely the dollar number that spooks me, the percentage is identical to what ive traded calmly for a year. reframing it might be exactly what i needed.

                  journal it

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