<![CDATA[harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy]]>harmonic patterns (gartley, butterfly, bat, crab, cypher) had a moment around 2018-2020. since then theyve faded from mainstream trading discussion. you rarely see them mentioned in current trading content.

did they actually work for a while and stop working? or were they always more about marketing than edge? for those whove genuinely traded harmonics: what was your experience and would you still recommend learning them?

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/topic/266/harmonic-patterns-useful-tool-or-retired-strategyRSS for NodeSat, 06 Jun 2026 01:27:32 GMTMon, 09 Mar 2026 14:42:00 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Thu, 12 Mar 2026 11:30:00 GMT]]>edge faded. not gone.

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/980https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/980Thu, 12 Mar 2026 11:30:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Wed, 11 Mar 2026 14:42:00 GMT]]>i love harmonic patterns aesthetically even though i dont trade them anymore 🔥 they made me appreciate market geometry. the broader concept of 'price respecting fib relationships' is still valid even if specific patterns lost edge

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/979https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/979Wed, 11 Mar 2026 14:42:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Wed, 11 Mar 2026 10:18:00 GMT]]>i'll defend harmonics partially. on higher timeframes (4H+) with confluence (alignment with major SR or trend direction), they still work for me. the edge is smaller than it was, but its not zero. dismissing entirely is overcorrection.

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/978https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/978Wed, 11 Mar 2026 10:18:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Tue, 10 Mar 2026 15:55:00 GMT]]>harmonics worked when retail traders all started using the same patterns and the market obliged for a while. classic reflexivity. once they figured out everyone was watching the same levels, the pattern died. textbook crowding.

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/977https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/977Tue, 10 Mar 2026 15:55:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Wed, 03 Jun 2026 00:38:03 GMT]]>yes. harmonic patterns are essentially specific combinations of fibonacci retracement and extension ratios. for example a 'gartley pattern' has specific fib ratios at each leg (0.618 retracement, 1.272 extension, etc). theyre fib-based geometric patterns, basically. understanding fib is prerequisite to understanding harmonics.

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/976https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/976Wed, 03 Jun 2026 00:38:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Tue, 10 Mar 2026 09:22:00 GMT]]>are harmonic patterns related to fibonacci? i see fib levels mentioned with them

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/975https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/975Tue, 10 Mar 2026 09:22:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Mon, 09 Mar 2026 18:30:00 GMT]]>+1. harmonics had real edge during their popularity peak but the edge decayed. classic 'strategy crowding' problem - when too many traders use the same setup, it gets traded away or hunted. they're not 'wrong' as a concept, just no longer differentiating.

]]>https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/974https://forum.forexroasted.com/post/974Mon, 09 Mar 2026 18:30:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to harmonic patterns, useful tool or retired strategy on Mon, 09 Mar 2026 16:18:00 GMT]]>traded harmonics seriously 2019-2021. won rate was around 55% with proper rules, R was 1.8. genuine edge for a while. by 2022 i noticed setups completing but no longer leading to profitable moves consistently. either too many traders entered the space or algos started front-running them. moved on. would i recommend learning? for educational completeness yes, as a primary edge in 2026 no.

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